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Brett37
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Nervous first post

Hi everyone. Very new to talking about my situation in a forum environment.

 


A bit of back story.


I was first diagnosed Severe Depression and severe anxiety in Early 2011 in my mid 30's. After several months of denying finally medicated in december of that year closely followed by a suicide attempt in late december that year.


I have had a relatively successful career in sales but worked under heavy pressure from 08 to 2011. I left my previous employ to take a role with lesser responsibility and that worked very well for 18 months. In 2013 I was weened off medication and all has seemed to go well until recently. Just a little unsure of where to go at this point. I have since re entered a sales career and work for a supportive employee that knows my history. But recently I have felt a few of the bad old ways creeping back in, don't want to socialise with people (makes it difficult when that is pretty much 90% of my job) and having mood swings again. Difference this time is I am not having the highs and lows as severely as I did back in 2011. Just generally flat and somewhat lost. Throughout my treatment I saw a Pshycologist once a fortnight but I don't really ever feel that she understood me or my situation. Was told that maybe I was just lost and looking for a career change.... Even after discussing the attempted suicide she indicated that I might just be a little bored.... WTF!


Hoping that sharing my experience and understanding what others have been through might lead me to the next step. I am not in a place where I am having dark thoughts, but I also don't want to get that low again. Is another assesment something I should be considering?


Cheers


Brett

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Re: Nervous first post

Hi @Brett37 

Welcome to the forums! Thankyou for your post!  No need to be nervous we are all very friendly here Smiley Very Happy

What an excellent idea to seek help before you get to the dark place!

 

I know there are people here that would be happy to share their stories of what they do and how they get help.

 

Welcome again!

Outlanderali

 

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Hi Brett37,

Welcome to the forum.Thank you for sharing your story.I am sure you will find the forum very supportive and helpfull.

It is good to hear that you have a very supportive employer who is understanding of your history.You said that all seemed to be going well from 2013 to the present. It might be usefull to look back and see what you were doing  that helped make a difference during that time and  try to gently implement it back into your life.

It is important that you are comfortable with your support network  and that you feel understood and lissened to.

It is a sign of strength and courage that you are looking at ways to prevent yourself from getting that low again.Well done.

I hope you find the forum helpfull.

Keep posting. Take care.

Mojo.  

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Hi @Brett37 

Welcome to the forums, it seems like you have a pretty good judge of where you are at currently, it is good to have an employer that is understanding too, i was also in a sales job for many years, altho i had to stop and work on myself as i got progressively more unwell without undergoing any treatment.

I think you have made a good first step in posting about your situation, i would recommend seeing your GP, and discussing it further with them, pyschologists are for me, someone you need to be confident in, it certainly helps, i have had quite a few different ones, until now i have one who i get along with really well.

they all form part of a support for yourself, it might be that you are just needing a boost up with perhaps medications again, and possibly going over a few things with a psychologist would also help? but probably best place to start is with your GP

Feel free to ask questions etc, we are all going through different things, but that just means that we all have some idea's about what helps for each of us indervidually.

and again welcome to the forums

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Dear @Brett37 

Welcome to the forums, and well done for joining the conversation in such a courageous and open way. 

I think you aree very wise (and showe quite a lot of self-insight) recognising that things are sliding in an unhhelpful direction with your mental health. This is a very helpful thing to be able to be aware of. To be honest from what you say of your psychologist (which is very little I grant) she sounds, in a word, like rubbish! People do not attempt suicide because they are bored, but because they feel life is hopeless. Anyone with half a brain, a heart and NO training gets that! (Rant over!)

So I think your idea of re-engaging with help is a good one, but find a different therapist. Do you have a good gp? I'd go and talk with them. Is it worth considering returning to the meds which helped last time as a starting point? Also seeing if your gp can recommend someone who is a good compassionate listener? Often gps can recommend a psychiatrist or psychologist in the vicinity based on what other patients have found and said about them. Eg: helpful, good listener, etc. These are potentially good leads, certainly worth checking out.

Be prepared to "shop around" for a therapist - which can be really painful if you are struggling as you are, but worthwhile if you get the help you need. @kato has had some recent experience with this issue - maybe his first psychiatrist went to the same psych school for dunderheads as yours did (just kidding, his was a psychiatrist anyway, but pretty terrible). Hopefully kato will share some of his experiences with you, he was also in sales.

It is terrific to hear that you have a sympathetic employer - that's fantastic to hear! It can mean all the difference between being able to continue working and not being able to all (it's how I managed to keep working when I had a very stressful job, BC). 

You don't sound bored to me, it sounds like something is going on for you and you don't know what it is yet. The psych's job is not to tell you what is going on so much as to help you answer that question. I really hope that you find some compassionate professional help soon as it can make a big difference too. In the meantime feel free to keep posting, to read about and contribute to others' journeys.

Remember, even in the midst of depression, hope endures...

Kindest regards, 

Kristin

PS Sorry, I think I singularly failed to mention that I suffered from depression for much of the last 30-odd years, and for a long time that was my diagnosis too. With the right help and a lot of courage I've found out lots more about myself, and have much more accurate diagnoses; which have helped me to work at being well without meds. It's not everyone's road - we all need to find our own. But I rarely suffer from depression now, and when I do not for long - because I know what drives it for me and I can work on that.

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 you for the responses guys. Kristin I don't know whether it is insight or fear that has triggered my response to a backslide.

And I certainly don't feel courageous, But I never ever want to put mypartner through the same experiences again. So I know I need to get well for her as much as myself. 

I know it is wrong, but I can't help but feel a little deflated and defeated when I think that I have let myself slide back into a negative frame of mind. I know that I am always going to be more vulnerable than people who do not suffer, And I know that there are sooo many out there much worse off than I am. 

I don't have a regular GP unfortunately any more. My old GP that I had been with for 20 years and diagnosed me retired. And I have been reluctant to raise issues with a new one. call it pride, call it embarrasment, I don't know. I have just not felt comfortable with anyone I have seen since. Thank you for the kind words and welcomes, I am not the type of person that normally puts it out there for all to see believe me! But I hope through this place and proper treatment, I can find a balance and enjoy life.

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Hey @Brett37 

You are most welcome!

You know it doesn't need to be one or the other - it can be fear and insight - the thing to give yourself a bit of credit for is you recognised it and are working on doing something about it. And from the sounds of it determined to be doing something that's more effective than last time.

I know you probably don't feel courageous - but courage (in my book) is not the absence of fear or despair, but persistence in the face of them. And you are; the fact that you are also motivated by concern for your partner is also laudable. When suffering with depression it can be so overwhelming it is quite difficult to be aware of others' needs. I suggest that rather "let myself slide back into a negative frame of mind" - as suffering from MI is not something you have chosen to have, nor something you have acquired through laziness - that whatever it is in you that needs to be heard and worked through is making itself known again, perhaps in part because the psychologist was so dismissive it didn't get addressed last time.

I have no idea what it is which is needing to come out, you might know or again you might not, but it does seem that something(s) exist. In my experience you may not always be more vulnerable to depression than those who don't suffer. I'd like to point out something that most of miss when living with depression, because MI is so stigmatised - that is it actually takes a lot of strength to persist and live with it. Sometimes just getting out of bed is huge. As for others being worse off that is true, but that will always be the case and isn't generally very helpful in making us feel any better about ourselves - indeed it can even be a way of being self-dismissive.

I think you are being real about very valid concerns with your mental health. This is a way to working on it before it becomes so overwhelming that you feel suicidal again. So I say again this is wise in my view. Denial doesn't keep MI at bay, it just tends to mean you get hit by a tidal wave instead of something you can, with help, learn to surf - even if it's not so enjoyable as surfing is for some.

For about 15 years or so I used run like mad when I felt depression rising up like a black cloud heralding a storm. It was terrifying. Then I started to turn and face it which made a big difference. For many years after that I'd grab all the "skeletons" in my emotional "closet" one by one and demand to know why they were giving me grief. Thankfully more recently I've learned a lot about practising self-compassion. Now when I start feeling depressed I can open the closet and ask them (that is ask myself) what's wrong - and I get answers which I can work on so I don't get to the overwhelmed stage.

I'm not going to BS you, this process has taken me almost 40 years to work out, but for many of those years I either had no help or pathologising (ergo unhelpful) help. In that time I've found that there were/are very good reasons for my depression - pieces of my own life puzzle that I've been able to begin putting back together. I'm now at a point where I can actually celebrate my life at least some of the time. I truly hope you can get to that place much sooner.

Re finding a good GP: they are rather the proverbial hen's teeth, like good compassionate psychiatrists. Especially in situations like this it's really important to find someone you feel reasonably comfortable with and has some understanding of MI. Could you ask friends and colleagues if they know of a good gp? Or even the local chemists (if you have any smaller ones near you - I'm guessing the big franchise ones won't necessarily know or care).

It can be worth thinking about what's most important to you in a gp. For instance is it more important that they are a good and respectful listener or that they have a good bedside manner? (Both is nice but if you had to choose.) You might start by thinking about the qualities you valued most in your old gp and work out which were most important, it sounds like you trusted them. 

Again you are most welcome. We try to be a supportive and welcoming community. Most of us aren't the type to put it out there for all to see either, myself included. I've only become comfortable about being more open in the last couple of years, and even then I am far less so in my local community where stigma still abounds - something I worry about far less for my own sake these days, but I have children and they have to live here too. 

Take care Brett. If your partner is concerned she might like to join the carer's forum. they are a very friendly bunch too and I know she would be made welcome. I occasionally hang out there too, but mostly here.

Hope for life enjoyment endures...

Kind regards, 

Kristin

Re: Nervous first post

Brett37,  "Even after discussing the attempted suicide she indicated that I might just be a little bored.... WTF!


What slack lazy unimaginitive, unbelievable,uninspiring bitch. She has probably so few patients that she has lost her way. That woman needs reporting to the appropriate authorities.

 There are many professionals out there that would be willing to help you, but until you can again trust them this forums is the first step, on your journey, to a recovery or just the ability to work without fear.

loopy.

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@Brett37I just wanted to share this picture with you. It always helps me when I feel a bit flat about things.

 

recovery.jpg

On another note - could you have your notes from your previous GP who retired sent to a new GP, so you don't have to go back through everything?

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Hey @Brett37 I was told I was having a midlife crisis too.. He was a total dipstick..and when I explained that perhaps there was more reason for my referral than a birthday (seriously..this guy hated women) he then told me I would need years of therapy, individual and group. But only in groups that he ran.
Oh my god..sacked him immediately and went to see my brother's psychiatrist, who wanted me off meds asap and gave me hope.. And yes, I think therapy with him stopped after 2 years.. Didn't need him and still stay well through peer support...
Please don't be put off getting the right kind of help by one so called professional...there are truly some wonderful practioners and mh services out there..

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